What a great interview! Really got me to question what I stand for & what I am willing to do to stand up for my values, which align with Dr. Coates’. Joy, your statement about “fighting against the stories that have been told & the stories we tell” struck me to my core. That said, reconciling what we stand for with the stories that we will tell, is indeed a battle. For years, I’ve been trying to untangle my prejudices (not necessarily race) from the stories that I, as a white woman from a military family, have been indoctrinated with. So many of the stories we’re told from the time we are small children have laid the ground for false preconceptions.
I believe in the purity of Dr. Coates’ humanity & do treat others with kindness & respect; however, one of the stories that I grew up with says that if one doesn’t play the game of life (a sort of politics) to get along, it shows a lack of respect for what my elders taught me, so to speak. It’s deeply ingrained to not rock the boat. This is unacceptable to the 68 year old version of me. I want to stand up for what’s right. Period. Your interview has reminded me of who I am & has caused me to dig down into my core to have the courage to be authentic, even if it rocks the boat. I’m questioning the ways I justify, for example, why I went along with our government’s choice to side with Israel in destroying innocent Palestinians while in pursuit of Hamas. The stories include, well, the US must support Israel and eliminate the terrorists. While I agree with eliminating terrorists, I never believed that allowing Palestinians to be slaughtered was ok. It is nothing short of horrific. And yes, Hamas used Palestinians as human shields so they are largely responsible. But, genocide is NEVER ok. But, but, but. The *buts* should not be acceptable - we must insist on finding alternative ways to plainly object to cruelty.
Feeling like this ought to be mandatory listening for HBCU students, for starters, as well as Prof Barber's and Snyder's students at Yale and Prof Ben Ghiat's at NYU. All thinkers of empathy need to hear this discussion.
That said, given both its importance and its length in our attention-starved culture, is it worth a reach back to Baldwin & Co to beef up the audio, to make sure nothing is missed ...?
Thank you Joy, this was refreshing, and convicting. I read Ta-Nahisi book the letter he wrote to his son. I am puertorican but feel so connected to the black propane history. I will by this book tomorrow
Thank you to Joy Reid and Ta-Nehisi Coates for this amazing conversation. I started reading The Message the day it came out and was so moved. For example, what a privilege to have the views of such a brilliant thinker coming out of the Black American experience sharing observations and thinking about Palestine/Gaza when so many people here don’t get it. When I finished the book, I bought a second copy just to give to some person ready to receive the wisdom and priceless perspective. I’m Anglo, grew up here with Italian immigrant grandparents, 81 years old, lived in Europe and one Moslem country, taught in two African countries. I believe this book should be discussed by every high school student in America.
This man speaks truth about the climate of abuse of the black people ,women ,ethnic groups 🤦🏻♀️It strikes my heart…
Joy-Ann ever since the veil of ignorance was lifted by George Floyd’s death off my old white head🤦🏻♀️ I have struggled with guilt and shame for not even knowing 🤯 but I am ready to stand with y’all… enough doing nothing and just hoping for better….Ty for finding a way for me to hear your voice again…you are speaking directly to my heart and …I will be looking and listening for ways to stand with you…Ty….❤️
Ta-Nehisi Coates seems to have no gray area in his beliefs which is difficult for most people. I believe every other marginalized group looks down on Black people because they've been taught to. This impacts my commitment to their plight/persecution. He is right that it shouldn't. Wrong is wrong.
I attended the event in New Orleans. There were over 3,000 people in attendance. It was an incredible event.
What a great interview! Really got me to question what I stand for & what I am willing to do to stand up for my values, which align with Dr. Coates’. Joy, your statement about “fighting against the stories that have been told & the stories we tell” struck me to my core. That said, reconciling what we stand for with the stories that we will tell, is indeed a battle. For years, I’ve been trying to untangle my prejudices (not necessarily race) from the stories that I, as a white woman from a military family, have been indoctrinated with. So many of the stories we’re told from the time we are small children have laid the ground for false preconceptions.
I believe in the purity of Dr. Coates’ humanity & do treat others with kindness & respect; however, one of the stories that I grew up with says that if one doesn’t play the game of life (a sort of politics) to get along, it shows a lack of respect for what my elders taught me, so to speak. It’s deeply ingrained to not rock the boat. This is unacceptable to the 68 year old version of me. I want to stand up for what’s right. Period. Your interview has reminded me of who I am & has caused me to dig down into my core to have the courage to be authentic, even if it rocks the boat. I’m questioning the ways I justify, for example, why I went along with our government’s choice to side with Israel in destroying innocent Palestinians while in pursuit of Hamas. The stories include, well, the US must support Israel and eliminate the terrorists. While I agree with eliminating terrorists, I never believed that allowing Palestinians to be slaughtered was ok. It is nothing short of horrific. And yes, Hamas used Palestinians as human shields so they are largely responsible. But, genocide is NEVER ok. But, but, but. The *buts* should not be acceptable - we must insist on finding alternative ways to plainly object to cruelty.
Reading his book right now. 🤎
Thank you, Joy and Ta-Nehisi, for this very interesting interview.
Feeling like this ought to be mandatory listening for HBCU students, for starters, as well as Prof Barber's and Snyder's students at Yale and Prof Ben Ghiat's at NYU. All thinkers of empathy need to hear this discussion.
That said, given both its importance and its length in our attention-starved culture, is it worth a reach back to Baldwin & Co to beef up the audio, to make sure nothing is missed ...?
Thank you Joy, this was refreshing, and convicting. I read Ta-Nahisi book the letter he wrote to his son. I am puertorican but feel so connected to the black propane history. I will by this book tomorrow
Just saw the discussion earlier today -Excellent! Ta-Nehisi Coats is one of my favorite authors. I ordered the book and it will be my next read.
Thank you to Joy Reid and Ta-Nehisi Coates for this amazing conversation. I started reading The Message the day it came out and was so moved. For example, what a privilege to have the views of such a brilliant thinker coming out of the Black American experience sharing observations and thinking about Palestine/Gaza when so many people here don’t get it. When I finished the book, I bought a second copy just to give to some person ready to receive the wisdom and priceless perspective. I’m Anglo, grew up here with Italian immigrant grandparents, 81 years old, lived in Europe and one Moslem country, taught in two African countries. I believe this book should be discussed by every high school student in America.
Awesome interview
This man speaks truth about the climate of abuse of the black people ,women ,ethnic groups 🤦🏻♀️It strikes my heart…
Joy-Ann ever since the veil of ignorance was lifted by George Floyd’s death off my old white head🤦🏻♀️ I have struggled with guilt and shame for not even knowing 🤯 but I am ready to stand with y’all… enough doing nothing and just hoping for better….Ty for finding a way for me to hear your voice again…you are speaking directly to my heart and …I will be looking and listening for ways to stand with you…Ty….❤️
So good to see you ❤️ 💕 💖 💓 I miss you 😔 😘 😢 ❤️ you are so great see you 😘 😊 ❤️ ♥️ 💕 😀
Ta-Nehisi Coates seems to have no gray area in his beliefs which is difficult for most people. I believe every other marginalized group looks down on Black people because they've been taught to. This impacts my commitment to their plight/persecution. He is right that it shouldn't. Wrong is wrong.
Well said. 🌹
I really enjoyed watching this interview and happy to see you on a new platform that allows for unfiltered factual and fun content.